My Quick Take on Proposition 8
First and foremost, let’s exclude any moral or religious argument from my position. As far as I understand this law and the allowance of civil unions/marriage by the government it has absolutely nothing to do with a moral/religious position on sexuality. *It’s about taxes, insurance, healthcare, etc. Those things are basically all economic…not religious. If you still think America’s a ‘Christian’ nation then I’d say you’re sorely mistaken. We are not a religious state…that’s kind of why our country was founded.
Also we need to exclude the idea of homosexuality being a choice. That’s not how I view it, you might think I’m wrong and that’s fine but just understand my position. I never chose to be heterosexual, it’s just there. The things I do choose: how many partners I can have, what terms stipulate proper sexual interaction, whether or not to abstain, etc.
That being said, I say we do away with government ‘marriage’ and call it a ‘civil union.’ Marriage, as most people tend think of it, is something religious. That’s fine, I think that can be part of it too. If you want a religious ceremony to celebrate your union then go for it, but that particular ceremony should in no way be tied to the governmental benefits you’ll be receiving. The way to those benefits (or whatever you want to call them) should be civil unions. Civil unions means every single joined couple can have the same benefits regardless of sexuality or religion…simply because they’re people.
Someone asked me about polygamy… I don’t think there’s an issue here at all. In opposition to your sexual preference, the number of partners you have is a choice. It may be cultural or traditional for you to have more than one partner but a civil union, ideally, would be regulated and could only cover you and a spouse. Now surely some polygamists would be upset by this but as far as I understand polygamy it’s usually a religious/cultural tradition…or choice.
My sister likes to bring up, “Well what if someone claims they have a natural sexual attraction to children and it’s not a choice for them?” That’s very possible but this situation involves an adult and a non-consenting child. I also would say these attractions are different than the most basic hetero/homo attractions. They involve a very specific thing: age. I’m not sure being attracted to age can be considered anything but a choice. Furthermore, the actions that would proceed out of an attraction to children are completely different than the ones that take place between two consenting adults of any sexual preference. Morally, ethically we should take issue with selfishness and those who take advantage of the weak, no matter what the ‘natural’ attraction may be. I’d be pissed if my friends were selfishly out having sex with different guys/girls every night.
I grew up in a town where people still have problems with interracial couples. It’s practically an abomination there. One of my aunt’s was ignored by her grandfather for the larger part of her life because she married a man of color. Absolutely stupid. During the time of slavery people held the same attitude many hold now towards homosexuals. Eventually we learned how ignorant we were being and that no race of people can be the demise of our society.
Selfishness, materialism and meat eating…now those, those could be the downfall of us all.
*at my college married couples got a discount, at least that’s what i was told. can’t find it on their site but I’m pretty sure it’s true.

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Don I hope I don’t cause you to entirely reconsider your position but I completely agree with you.
I’ve long said that in the eyes of the law and equal union is an equal union. I think gay/lesbian couples deserve the exact same rights and benefits as any other legally joined couple. The law should be no respecter of race, gender, or persons in general.
I think we should get government out of the Marriage business. I consider Marriage to be an institution of the Church so let individual bodies of believers choose who they marry.
Regardless of my positions or opinions concerning homosexuality I am not the judge.
Equal rights all the way.
(I’m sorry I’ll try not to agree with you again as I know how troubling having a conservative express agreement can be
haha keith, thank you sir. that gave me a hearty chuckle.
I’m actually in favor of getting rid of all marriage, in the government ordained sense. It’s not the government’s responsibility to dictate the legality of my relationships – that’s between me, my partner, and God.
I think a government demanding the disclosure of relationship statuses is ridiculous. What’s the point, other than to say who can and can’t receive certain government benefits? Why not field and drop the issue to begin with – and with it, drop the benefits. It’s just money. Liberty is worth more than government assistance and tax breaks.
Does a couple really need validation from their government to commit their lives to one another? It was illegal for slaves to marry, but they “jumped the broom” anyway. Did that make their relationship any less legal in the sight of God just because the government that oppressed them didn’t recognize the union?
That being said: As a human being I think I am capable of anything that is humanly possible for me…who I am is not only who I’ve chosen to be, but who I’ve chosen NOT to be. I’ve had this conversation with your sister, too – and she and I ultimately agree. Of course PRACTICING homosexuality is a choice – it’s the initial attraction may not be to a certain point. But that’s not the issue – the issue is the choice whether or not to act/dwell on that attraction.
I grew up in a very gay-friendly high school and distinctly remember making a conscious decision to NOT dwell on the idea of being attracted to females when I was about 16. I think most people are kidding themselves if they say they’ve never EVER been bi-curious at any point in their lives, if they were exposed to the option. Tell me if I’m wrong!
so….now that I’m all worked up, I guess I should blog this. Thanks for the catalyst.